I can't possibly hope to know all the answers to the questions I try to ask on this page.
I can take some guesses and ask some questions.
I can also try to guess what some of the answers to those possible questions might be.

- Does the plain, the firmament, the oval shaped area of light that is the light from the surface of the Moon, after it has been transported towards the Earth and then after it has emerged out of the mountain, actually finally come into contact with the outer edges of the upper reaches of the Earth's atmosphere?
- Could the bottom reaches of this area of lasting light ultimately extend lower than the outer edges of the upper reaches of the earth's atmosphere?
- Does the oval shaped plain come into contact with the Earth's atmosphere?

It looks to me as though this is a 50/50 situation. Either the oval lasting light area brought forth, the plain, or firmament, does directly interact with the Earth's atmosphere or it doesn't interact with the Earth's atmosphere.
Perhaps the area of Lasting Light that is ultimately brought forth remains at some great distance from the Earth while at the same time appearing to be close to the Earth as far as Earth bound viewers are able to perceive.

The firmament, the oval area of lasting light that is the light from the surface of the Moon emerges, then unfolds and is presented, after it is brought forth, out of the column of light that contained and transported it directly towards the Earth from over the object's upper right horizon.

If not at some great distance from the Earth then at the very least, if the oval shaped firmament does not interact with and come into direct contact with the Earth's upper atmosphere, then the oval area of lasting light must surly then arrive, develop, and then last in place in the very first area's of true outer space directly above our atmosphere, in contact with the Earth's upper most atmosphere, or not in contact with the Earth's upper most atmosphere.
I know this can only sound like there is no chance that any of my guesses could eventually prove to be true or accurate or even close but I don't see where there is any chance at all that all three of these guesses are completely wrong unless the plain ultimately lasts in place in a position close to, or very close to the surface of the Earth.

Down within the top of the rapidly rising bending curving second phase of the changed light event, I was looking right at the surface at the Moon.
The last time I saw the Moon's changed light it was headed, traveling directly this way, strait towards the Earth at tremendous speed.

I continue try to understand and guess, what happened after my view ended or what normally happens during a return that features an illusion event, a changed light event, that plays out in it's full entirety.

(As I have mentioned many times in various places, I don't know exactly what to call the Moon's Changed light. All I know for sure is that it is light from the Moon, and somehow the Ancient Object changes this light.
It looks solid and it's just simply something you see over there, and it lasts and remains as if it was hard ground.)

As I have mentioned before, I feel there is a very good chance that the entire illusion event, or Lasting Light event, did not actually happen during the Ancient Object's last return orbit down across in front of the Moon.
I don't actually know the answer to this question for myself because my view ended part of the way through the second phase of the illusion, the rising mountain. I did not see the whole return last time.

I can plainly see from ancient depictions and clearly understand from ancient writings and from what I saw the light from the surface of the Moon doing, that at some later point in the evolution of the changed light from the Moon, the light from the surface of the Moon is transported forward towards the Earth.
In many many situations or cases I am not able to understand were certain descriptions take place. I can't tell if various points or sights that are mentioned or described take place on the Earth, itself or if they take place within and as a part of the world or region of Lasting Light.
More and more I am finding and realizing that in many cases the ancient descriptions simply have nothing to do with the actual real world, down here and instead the focus is clearly on the oval shaped world, of Lasting Light, up there, the plain, the light from the surface of the Moon, the later evolution of the flat white clouds of the valley floor.

The events described in ancient texts, happen up there, at whatever height, above the Earth.
I am simply unable to tell which is which in many instances.
I understand that the ancient focus was on the Lasting Light, the scene, and the sights, and the forms, and the actions within the Lasting Light that are actually changed and Lasting Light themselves. It also seems obvious that the ancient writers did not leave the actual real ground and the actual, real, humans completely out of their descriptions of the event.
The real, world down here goes with the Lasting Light world, up there and it is very hard differentiate between the two when I read.
I can actually give many examples of this situation. In fact this whole situation is an example of this effect I am trying to describe. Unless I can see that the ancient writer was obviously describing the Lasting Light,
I usually don't have any real idea where the described subject takes place or took place, down here, or up there.

Also this relates to the, altitude were, the location were, the lasting Light is seen by viewers on Earth once the Lasting Light that emerges from the mountain of light has then formed or reformed or unfolded and has become the oval shaped plain, as described in ancient Earth stories.
There's just no easy way to say this.
( Chapter 1 )
What am I suppose to do or say instead?
Why should I have to pretend I don't know this?
The future will know that I understood and knew.
What will the future say about me if I don't actually say it like it is.
One day my kids will understand more than I do. I am accountable to them first and foremost.
People say that they are after truth and knowledge, and all the while, more and more, I am finding that people do, but they don't want to hear about not just the Object, but especially about the Lasting Light.
Well I'm not going to beat around the bush because of a fabric of reality that does not belong to me, or doesn't actually make much or even any sense to me.
A fabric of reality that belongs to other's, people who didn't see.
I could send away for the study guide, because of the references to ancient texts that describe what the Moon's Lasting Light looks like and what it does after my view ended. But that would be the only reason why I would consider the study guides, that are available.
The plain, of Lasting Light arrives above the Earth and is seen at whatever height.
It's the ancient oval area that is constantly referred to and depicted by many many ancient artists.
It's always' the same place.

It's Olympus, it's the plain of Atlantis, complete with the incredible mountain with those down within, the Awesome Good and his friends down within it's top.
I know that people will not be able to consider this possibility, that's ok.

The appointed time will arrive again, and at that point time people will be unable to deny certain things as they are being forced to comprehend the sights they will be receiving and feeling as the sight of the changed light flows and forces it's way deep within them, if they are able to stay looking.
Just wait, soon you will know that I am right, that is, if you are lucky enough to actually see the sights for yourself. Follow the Return Viewer's Guide.
Look at Stonehenge, look at the medicine wheels in North America.
These types of things were central within the oval plain.
The ancient people looked up, and then copied what they saw.

I have seen the Lasting Light, and I have seen it move and change and grow.
I have seen how it builds up and then out, and then up, or down, depending on how you look at it, or think about it. The cross pieces, at Stonehenge and as seen within other ancient constructions or monuments depict how the Lasting Light builds out, exactly like the step, of the step type of pyramid.
The light wave that arrives from over the object's upper right horizon pulses up, the Lasting Light builds up, in whatever shape or form. The light wave finishes, waiting for the next wave or area of moving light to almost instantaneously move and in the meantime,
the Lasting Light builds out, the step, or cross piece, is created. That's the way the effect works.

Look at Machu Picchu, that's a model of the place, that's the idea, complete with the Awesome Good in his place on top, down within the top, of the area's mountain peak.
It's the ancient Maya's oval, shape that they depicted. It's the oval shape, that emerges, or is brought forth, out of The Great Serpent Mound, in the U.S.A.
It's always' the same place and it's always' the same thing, the changed and Lasting Light from the Moon.
And it's also always about the Guy! / "The Awesome Good! And the incredible intensity of the pressure and power of his stare!
Read the descriptions of the Lasting Light and the Ancient Object, "Adoil," in Enoch II.
Soon everyone who is lucky enough to see will also know and feel, exactly what was written about.

Anyway's.
Once the Lasting Light has formed into the plain, it will either be at high enough altitude to be damaged by satellites or it won't form at a high enough altitude to be damaged by satellites.
It's not as simple as either or, but basically this is an either or situation.

The Ancient Object's forces, along with generating the entire event, also somehow cause the area of light that is the surface light from the Moon to become oval shaped when it is later seen again, after it has been transported and it has somehow emerged out of the mountain's sleeve of outer Lasting Light.
The mountain, that grows at it's base bending curvingly straight, stores and transports the one way moving waves of changed Moon light in sections or layers that are added into the base of the rising mountain one at a time as each individual wave area pulses forward from over the Ancient Object's upper right horizon.
This growing column of Moon light stores the one way moving areas of Lasting Light that flow or pulse out from the Moon over the Object's upper right horizon and then transports then towards the Earth.

The rising light mountain is moving directly, very specifically towards the viewer.
The base of the mountain located over the Ancient Object's upper right horizon, is the Moon, as that's were the successive one way waves that pulse forward arriving and then moving as a single area of moving light that then becomes the next area of rising mountain, come from.
The fast moving forward rolling Object intercepts, at first blocks out the Moon's light then allows the Moon to emerge over it's fast moving, forward rolling slowly sinking upper right horizon area. Later during phase two of the Lasting Light event, the rising mountain, the valley, the light from the surface of the Moon, is reduced in proportions and is contained down within the top of the rising mountain.

The forms that have been sculpted by the shadows, including the sight of the Awesome Good, are all visible standing on the floor of the sunken room were they are all arranged and oriented as described. There they are basically standing on the surface of the Moon while they travel upwards forwards strait towards the Earth. Standing on the lasting solid changed light from the surface of the Moon, may be a more accurate way to think of it. The entire area of moving light is traveling towards the Earth with tremendous speed and momentum and with some sort of intense pressure that you can really feel if you are actually looking.

The last I saw this sight it was very definitely headed directly this way.
Somehow it seems it did not finally reach all the way to the Earth like it used to in ancient times, or so it would appear. The entire mountain, it's upper structure and the sunken room down within it's upper structure, travel towards the viewer at a tremendous speed. This is part of the strangeness of what the viewer is looking at. It's light and you are seeing it so somehow it's reaching your eye, but it's this great big thing that's rising and moving towards you from over there. There it is over there, moving through space at a fantastic speed, moving directly towards you.

You have no sense that anything you are seeing is actually light, however that's what it is, although this light has been effected and somehow very obviously changed by the Ancient Object's forces.
Here it comes dramatically rising up with the full force of the intensity and the pressure of the light as each one way pulse of arriving and then slowed down and moving as one area of light joins and becomes the next area of the base of the mountain flowing up out from the Moon, from over the speeding Object's upper right horizon. It is light that's coming from the Moon but this light appears as if it's rising or growing up from the surface of the Object in the form of one way pulsing arriving waves of light that merge and become one with the mountain that has already been created.
The total speed that the top of the mountain travels towards you at is a combination of the speed of the Ancient Object and the speed of the rising light mountain. Somehow very obviously this light is not following the "normal," rules as far as the behavior and speed, of light is concerned. I saw what the changed light does and I felt the pressure this light exerts on you but I sure can't explain what is really going on with this very strangely behaving light.

The changed, lasting, and solid looking light from the surface of the Moon that is contained down within the top of the mountain does travel directly towards the viewer at a tremendous speed. This area is only a part of the oval shaped surface of the Moon that is eventually seen after it emerges out of the top of the mountain.

The oval shaped area of Lasting Light seems as if it was observed and seen in close proximity from the Earth in ancient times.
I certainly don't know a lot overall about ancient people. I have only read a very limited amount of material.

Most of the things that I can find to read indicate that a great of the time many of the ancient people seem as if they have been oriented towards the sky, as a basic part of their traditions. I am only able to say this based on the very limited amount I have read about ancient traditions. I am able to see that looking up is an ancient worldwide common theme. If it is an ancient worldwide common theme then it seems as if a great deal of the time it's all about the sight of the Ancient Object crossing down and the changed light from the Moon.
I am able to understand that the Lasting Light of the oval shaped plain is ultimately the central part of a return that they were focused on.
The Big Noticing, was also very central but the plain, and the scene and the subsequent action, seen within as if a movie, was also the major highlight of a Return event.

This possible contact between the plain, the oval area of Moon light, and the Earth is sometimes described as reaching nearly all the way to within feet of the ground. This may or may not be true. I have only read a few things that seem as if they are talking about the Lasting Light being so low that there was not room for a Man to stand up. I had always pictured it's lower reaches as being above the clouds as seen from Earth.

I have only recently encountered any sort of reference that describes the lower reaches of the lasting light actually at a very low position down close to the ground. I have not considered the implications of this type of situation when I was wondering what sort of damage satellites might cause to the Lasting Light through contact with the Lasting Light.
Now just to start with, could airplanes also now be a factor?

How does our atmosphere interact with the Moon's Lasting light once it arrives?
Does it slow it down?
Does it spread it out or thin it out so it's less dense perhaps allowing you to see within it's solid parts?
The solid looking Lasting Light is really amazing. Who knows what it is capable of?
Maybe it just arrives and does the things that it does completely unaffected by our atmosphere, at whatever altitude, who knows?
I have to find more to read about this area of things before I can try to guess some more.
I simply don't know?

An area that is widely written about concerning the third phase of the illusion is the sounds that were heard. The viewer's hearing sounds seems as if it's another ancient world wide common theme that is associated with the ancient viewer's watching the changed light from the Moon. I always figured sound transmission needed air or some sort of medium. Sounds are clearly associated with the Moon's changed light at least as far as phase three of the illusion is concerned. I can only say this based on the things I am able to read that talk about what used to happen past the point that I saw up to.

Can sounds that are generated by the evolution of the actions that were seen taking place within and a part of the third phase of the illusion, the firmament, be heard on the Earth if the Lasting Light does not interact with the Earth's atmosphere?
Can sound travel through space?
The Lasting Light is a special circumstance. Can the sounds that the Lasting Light generate travel through space? Sounds were apparently heard and I know this because the ancient writers who were describing and writing about what they were looking up and seeing, also wrote about what they were hearing.

If the sounds that are generated from the Lasting Light can travel through space then the Lasting Light may not actually finally reach the Earth's atmosphere. If the sounds that were heard on Earth in ancient times from the evolution of the oval area of Lasting Light needed air for their transmission then the Moon's Lasting Light must have obviously interacted with the Earth's atmosphere. Also as usual everything that has to do with the Lasting Light is always just to bizarre.
Sounds from light? That is what is written.
-"And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps"
This is a special case because the source of the sounds is the Lasting Light from the Moon as heard coming from or from within the area of the oval shaped plain.
How does sound come from light?
It seems there are many references to the sounds made or generated by the Lasting Light of the third phase of the illusion, the plain. It seems as though sounds were heard;
-"and his voice was like a noise of many waters."
- "I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech,"

Not only are sounds talked about but sounds that even reminded the ancient viewer's of familiar things. Thunder, voices and harp music.
How could this work?
I am sure the list of sounds is very extensive.
I have not done more than nudge in this direction so I don't know how extensive a list of examples there are out there.
I know that the scene and the figures and the action within the area of the Lasting Light was the focus.
The ancient texts describe sounds in relation to the sight of the Lasting Light.
I am able to understand that if the texts say they heard sounds, sounds were almost certainly heard.
These texts were literally describing the way the Lasting Light appears and what it does, simple. That part is very easy for me to understand.
How high up above the Earth or how low down to the ground is the Lasting Light's position once it has arrived in place and these sounds, are heard?
I don't know but it does appear that sounds, do go along with this event. This may be some sort of a clue that could help point to and help to understand the position were this part of the Lasting Light event takes place, the altitude.

Also the simple fact is as I know only to well, just seeing the Lasting Light rising from the start seems to be able to cause a viewer to hear sounds generated within your head without coming through your ears as I try to describe on the Awesome Good Page. This may be the secret to these sounds and the air as a medium for sound may have nothing to do with this effect the ancient people wrote about. Time will reveal the answer to this question.

If I didn't see it, I have to make and take guesses as to how the light looks and acts after my view of it ended. That's basically how it goes for me.
I can read descriptions that other's wrote long ago that describe the same sights that I saw and then describe the sights that I didn't see, the sights that happened beyond the end of my view. I have seen some ancient depictions that show various aspects and elements of what the viewers saw from Earth. I can see the shape of the third phase of the Lasting Light event in ancient depictions but so far I can't tell how close to the ground the oval shaped area of light's final position is located.

It does seem to me as if there is a real chance that the Moon's Lasting Light of phase three of the illusion, the oval shaped area, the plain, and all the main elements that are displayed as a part of it, can be damaged if they come into contact with solid objects. The Lasting Light from the Moon does last but it has some sort of life span that may or may not run it's full natural course. Random events and factors seem as if, and seem as though, they have effected the course of events and the life span, and the integrity of the main elements that are Lasting Light.

I read in an ancient text a description of one of the main elements that was formed out of the Lasting Light, being struck by a piece of material a stone, that was ejected at least partly by centrifugal force, from the forward rolling star bursting Ancient Object when it's surface was active. The shattered pieces of the form sculpted with and out of the lasting Moon light was described as being struck, "smote," broken into pieces.

I for one am definitely obviously hoping for an inactive returning Object as opposed to the star bursting Ancient Object of old.
When I saw the big rolling place the surface was completely inactive.
The ancient viewer that saw the stone, strike one of the forms or main elements made out of the Lasting Light must have been watching a return that featured the Ancient Object with an active surface.
I don't know any other way for this sort of incident to occur.
By the time the damage to the Lasting Light, event described happened, the actual big rolling place itself, the Ancient Object, which is also described as a stone sometimes it seems, would have been basically long gone having rolled much further down and away to the lower right, by the point in time described.
Possible explanations could be that;
- A piece of ejected material from the Ancient Object arrived and traveled down through the Earth's atmosphere and damaged the form described in the ancient text while the Lasting Light was being viewed in place above the Earth.
-Perhaps a piece of material ejected by the star bursting Ancient Object struck the rising mountain of phase two of the illusion causing the damage at a place out in space.
The damage happening to the stored up lasting light might have been seen later once that part of the light played out like a movie later once the plain had formed and the forms were seen in action within the plain itself. The piece of material itself could have passed through the lasting light of the mountain and then traveled off in whatever direction in space.
The sight of the Lasting Light being damaged by the stone in question might have been recorded in a sense by the stored rising Lasting Light inside the mountain.
The point when the damage occurred could have been seen later when that part of the changed light was seen later unfolded within the plain and was in action within the plain.
All I know is that at some point the Lasting Light was struck by material that was ejected by the Ancient Object itself and this resulted in damage to the Lasting Light, that's the point.

The ancient writer describes the broken pieces of Lasting Light as becoming like chaff.
Then the wind is described as carrying the chaff like pieces away.

Once the part of the Lasting Light form described, had been broken into the chaff, like pieces, could it have appeared to the ancient viewer that the wind carried, these pieces, away even if the Lasting Light was in space and not in contact with the moving air of the Earth's atmosphere?
Maybe but this is a question that I have no answer for.
How do broken chaff life pieces of broken Lasting Light behave in space or in the moving air of Earth's atmosphere?
I try to speculate but obviously all I can do is speculate, and guess.
My guess is actual moving air, wind.

If the oval shaped area of Lasting Light does arrive down close to the Earth it will have to pass through the area of space were the satellites and all of the space trash, are located?
If the oval shaped area of Lasting Light does not enter the Earth's actual atmosphere and instead the Lasting Light arrives and stops in place in some sort of position just above the earth's atmosphere what then?
Will the damage continue and possibly accumulate?
At least if it enters the Earth's atmosphere any potential damage could possibly be limited.

What about pollution in the Earth's atmosphere?
Could pollution effect and or change how the Lasting Light appears?
What about powerful radio, television, radar waves etc?
Real light from the Moon may be arriving near the Earth as a result of the Object's next return if the third phase of the Lasting Light event plays out in it's entirety the way it seems as though it's predicted to do.
What sort of potential damage to or effect on the Lasting Light will occur as a result of our influences?

Perhaps the Lasting Light may not be easily effected while it is still young and before it unfolds to reveal it's inner details.
Perhaps the Lasting light somehow becomes less stable as it ages and becomes old, as described in ancient writing.
Perhaps the way it is transported and the way the oval shaped area of Lasting Light forms and then goes into action will allow it to somehow slip past most or all man made obstacles or impediments or maybe not.

Ultimately it seems as if these and many more questions that I don't know to ask, will be answered.
It would be a terrible tragedy if ultimately the sight of the Lasting Light and especially the sight of the Lasting Light of the Awesome Good was damaged or destroyed by some sort of space junk, before it is seen once again were it forms or somehow comes to rest as described by so many ancient writers.

The first face to face Big Noticing, of old, will happen shortly after the shadow strikes.
But what about the ultimate Big Noticing, that is said to happen later after the Lasting Light has been transported and brought forth out from down within of the top of the mountain's sleeve of light and then unfolded and formed new once again?
Will we see the ultimate ancient sight that there is to be seen?

Gilgamesh
Tablet 1/Column ii

Two-(thirds) of him is god and [one-third of him is man].
The form of his body [none can match (?)].

(I know what you are thinking.
That's ok, if I hadn't seen the changed light from the Moon I wouldn't be able to realize this either, just like you.
It turns out that this is very simple and easy to realize for me and it would be just as simple and easy for you or anyone who's ever actually seen what the changed light from the Moon looks like along with the completely bizarre way it behaves.

I suppose that even though some things are easy and simple it still is actually hard for me to include ancient texts even if I am able to realize some of the subjects being discussed. I didn't see the sights described above in Gilgamesh, but it is a simple and easy thing for me to realize that the sight described above is what used to happen next past the point were my view ended back in very ancient times when the area of the plain was still being brought forth and unfolded and then seen by viewer's on the Earth.
Look at the Giza plateau. It's the same big sight that the ancient world always focused on.
The ancient people used different terms and expressions to describe the same sights.

It's the evolution of the incredible fantastic very muscular Awesome Good!
I saw the first two versions and one day I hope to see the third version as described in Gilgamesh actually happen.
I can only hope that all the shaking that happens is in the Lasting Light and is in the viewer's head because of the tremendous pressure and intensity and feeling of the sight of the changed light, and receiving the sight of the Awesome Good.

It really would be a terrible tragedy if after waiting all this time to see the sight of the muscular Awesome Good, viewer's on Earth missed what possibly may be the first change to see the sight of the Awesome Good as seen within the area of the oval shaped plain of Lasting Light in a very very long time because of the possibility of damage caused by satellites, and other assorted space junk and trash.